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Jack Mack: I do not know if this is the right place for this but it concerns very much breeding of all Collies and Shetland Sheepdogs in my country. VDH in Germany has now banned any breedings that can produce MDR1 affected puppies.
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OneWay's: I got my first collie 1981 my first litter was born 1984 and many dogs has been born here, and no one of my dogs has been killed by medication like ivermectin. Here the vets know that collies can be sensitive, so I don't understand the BIG problem??? Many dogs from my breeding had really high age 14-15 years without any sick days. So when you Gudrun told me that my MultiCh OneWay's Errol Flynn was affected or what ever, do you think I care?? a dog that was healthy in 13 years? even if you had said that he was +/+ I shouldn't NEVER had given him ivermectin, because I don't have to, and I don't trust these tests. You can give collies Interceptor if you need. We have horses we devormed them with Ivermectin, but the dogs are not allowed to eat their shit and I'm always carefull to put the leftovers in the trash, so no problem. A much bigger problem in the breed is all these dogs with ep and immunproblems, dogs that dies in cancer, these thing ARE thing to care for, If I look in some dogs pedigrees it's like a nightmare, same dogs up to 10 times, in some generations, IF these dogs are unhealthy what will happen with the breed in the future than?? Here in Sweden people are more hysterical about or MH test/mental description, and can't use dogs if the dont have the crosses in the right place. I will not test my dogs for MDR1, because I don't think that it's nessesary. And CEA? I got a dog that was CEA-free in Germany, but in Sweden she had crd... so test everything, but can you trust all tests?
Jack Mack: I posted this topic as an information what had happened in Germany at that time. I also posted what became of it. I never attacked anybody because of his or her aim in breeding. How good that finally all problems that can occur in our breed can be hung up on MDR1........ And the small gene pole - was it better before we knew about MDR1 ????
nuedeli: How good that finally all problems that can occur in our breed can be hung up on MDR1........ Very true - to spread out rumours about bad health of MDR1 negative dogs or their offspring seems to be the only attitude of some breeders to react to a GENETIC DEFECT - how sad ! And the small gene pole - was it better before we knew about MDR1 ???? The arguing with the small gene pool is absolutely ridiculous, as long as there is no limitation of matings for ALL studdogs. The so called "Matador breeding", the breeding always with the same Champion-dogs, was very usual before we knew about MDR1 and this presumably will not change, as long as beauty but not health is the most important reason at choosing a stud dog. Nuedeli
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